Hi everyone.
Well we've been developing a new project lately and we had an idea to do an interesting shot that I've seen before but Vital and I were never able to figure out how it was done.
We were thinking of having the camera go from a close up to a wide shot showing the whole scene but the camera would need to move trough a wire fence.
Now I've seen this before and I'm guessing it's combination of camera work and editing technique or do they just have a really long probe lens and stick it trough the whatever the camera moves trough.
Anyone have any experience with this?
Thank you for the help and regards to everyone
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Correct, a long focal length lens will do the trick. Or you CGI the fence in.
Thank you Lindbergh E Hollingsworth. That's what I thought. It's probably really the easiest way to get rid of the fence physically, track the shot and then add a CGI fence. We'll have to do a couple of tests but I think that's the best way.
I've been thinking about cameras passing trough windows and it's probably the same thing.
No window and then adding CGI glass.
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I would say CGI is the best way to go... there might be another way. Have a Pro 6K or 4K camera that shoots RAW or a high quality codec with a good drone operator. You could try to combine two shots and use a digital zoom in to help the transition from in front to a behind the fence. It's not going to be perfect but will give you something close.
Thank you Kacper Skowron. You know we just tried that yesterday. Shot up to the fence with the camera and on the other side with the drone that goes up. Just for the hell of it we tried to do both shots with the drone. But when we tried to edit it together it didn't go well. So I think CGI will be the way to go but we have to test first.
Unfortunately there's noting around here where we can test like a place where we could stick in a CGI fence and we're not allowed to go far from our place of residence.
But we'll give it a try when we can.
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Vy a Fence? Vy not a Duck or a Cheeckin? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFPZg75jqxo&feature=youtu.be
Here's another way to do it. Grab this: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1445643-REG/venus_optics_ve2414cc... PL mount and other mounts available but the EF and PL are the ones with the Cine Mod, or a telephoto that you can rack, start through the fence or at the fence if a non-probe, film at 60, 180 or more to stabilize in post and Dolly back away from the fence like a Muttah! Reverse it and adjust the speed in Post. You have to make sure everything on the other side is either static or can animate in either direction. Bees flying backwards don't work. Stop down to 8 or more unless you have a great focus/aperture/zoom puller.
Thanks guys.
We were actually looking a that probe lens. But I think a CGI shot will be the way to go, because it will be the easiest and simplest to do.
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In "On Directing Film," Mamet adds an anecdote about a class he led. He put a scenario of a character walking a corridor in front of the class and asked how they would shoot it.
A wide range of angles - high, low, tracking, etc. - were offered. Mamet then stated the shot depends upon what's going on in the scene which no student inquired about. These director-hopefuls all replied blindly.
"...an interesting shot..." A question: How does it serve the story?
BTW, a down and dirty method puts a small section of fence on a wheeled rig maybe on PVC rails. The rig is pushed back over the lens through one of the links.
With a combination of zoom and slow forward movement of the rig the shot is accomplished.
Oh yeah Tony S. . Now that I think of it I've seen it done that way. A peace of fence cut away and stuck to the front of the camera and then it gets attached onto the remainder of the fence while the camera keeps moving.
I think CGI fence will be easier but thank you.
As for the story part we're considering the shot as a closing shot to end the scene and show the environment where the action is taking place.