Filmmaking / Directing : Interesting Tim Burton interview by Sam Sokolow

I think I saw that audiences are supposedly moving away from superhero movies in general? The Nolan Batman movies are still my favorites thus far, hands-down. As a massive comic collector/fan I never have really liked the comic adaptations. "Logan" might have been the exception.

As a moviegoer, I can't count how many Batman, Superman, etc. there are. I do understand the importance of franchises, but I also understand that creating the same things over and over can become tiresome for someone who enjoys movies. I understand that a lot of it boils down to the business side. There is risk in movie making; just like investing in stocks, the past isn't always indicative of future results. I think you can also have the law of diminishing returns working against you. Mixing it or spreading it out between new concepts and new stories could help revitalize it. The thousand Marvel movies released in the last five years may play a part.

2025 studio releases. I counted only 5-6 original movies. Rest are remakes, reboots, sequels.

Dan MaxXx Surprising no one.

I think his comments have less to do with superhero films per se than the current expectation a superhero film is the launch of a franchise. Burton (and everyone else at that time) took decades of source material and distilled it into a single immersive interpretation of that material. Now we have the opposite, taking a single concept and maximally expanding it into dozens of films and mini series. Neither is good or bad, but the latter certainly goes against the concept of film adaptation most of us are accustomed to. I think when the expectation is that superhero movies can be stand alone films again, filmmakers like Burton would contemplate a return.

Kate Hanton You are correct because Burton never states he despises the genre like Scorsese and Coppola did. He stated later in the quoted interview that 'he would never say 'never' to anything', but it's also kind of telling he hasn't returned to superheroes since 1992... Today's franchises aren't solely based on one character, now we have DC and Marvel, et al. comic book and graphic novel source material as the overarching franchises, and from their respective film overseers just massive eruptions of superhero films and series with some characters I never expected to see on the big screen.

Sam Sokolow I think I would love to see more neo noir meets Superhero. The issue here sounds like it’s one of the need for more artistic freedom. and that likely coincides with the outdated cartoonish comical nature of franchises. there possibly is a hunger for more ultra realism and relatability from the characters and their worlds.

Rose Willow "The Batman" kind of fits that description.

Mike Childress Yes I think it tries to. For me a level of depth was missing in it though. How did it land in you?

Rose Willow When I first saw that Pattinson had been cast as Bruce/The Bat I was a little confused. Then with the first trailer it looked like it might be someone's ides of a moody/emo Batman, but I ended up liking it, Thought it was dark and gritty. It would have been interesting to see what the same plot would have looked like with a return of Burton at the helm. One of my favorite neo-noir superhero flicks is "Watchmen" so any new ones have big shoes to fill!