Carolyn Alyce's Lounge Discussions

Welcome Carolyn!

When I talked to the producer he said his assistant had the information wrong and they are only shooting for a week in July, but still aren't supplying anything they need for their SFX scenes, and doing nationality changes in addition to old age makeup is not cheap, they also want beauty makeup and other SFX makeup. I told them if they can't supply the items needed I don't think I can do it, it's just way too much they want for even a week's worth and no pay.

If you really wanted the experience, you could give them an estimated cost of material for the week. They might not realize that supplies cost real money and you can't use the same "stuff" on more than one actor. I'm in total agreement, as a crewperson, you shouldn't be paying out of pocket for supplies for their project.

@Dan yeah I'm not going to work on it

im gonna weigh on this as you decided to pass on it, yes definitely do it, I work for free all the time and it's never helped me a bit :)

I hate to say "Don't take this job!", but nothing about this sounds good.

you need to tell them that they have to pay for the materials used, especially the effects. If they can't do that, consider if you can pay for all of that, just for an IMDB credit.

There are times when I will work for free, but I always weigh up what's in it for me. Will doing this freebie advance my career? Dealing with your circumstances: The fact that they are new to features will mean they will make mistakes, sometimes big ones, such as one of the team not realising they are working on a feature, or totally underestimating the time it will take to shoot 90 minutes of film.... However see past that a little and consider whether any of the team will eventually progress in the industry. You can base that opinion on what they have already made, the quality of the current script, and their communication skills. A week of your time invested for free now may well pay off in the long term. You'll need to identify why two make up artists are required. Either a specialism is required, the cast is large, or two people applied for the same position and because they aren't paying they went with you both. You need to speak with the other person and identify each others roles... Can it be a "jobshare". You do a few days each... If after giving it due consideration you don't think it's worth it, don't do it. It is important to remember "deferred payment" is except in very exceptional cases just a nicer way of saying "no pay."

Free can be a platform to promote yourself, however read the script, consider the professionalism and those attached (names?-Not asking) However no pay should not include no lunch, and you paying for out of pocket for props or kits. That should be Upfront CASH before you start the day. Too many bad checks and it's in the mail. Just my opinion.

Don't do ANYTHING without getting paid.

I'm smarter than that lol. They haven't mentioned anything about a policy, contracts, nada. Exactly and I have a standard 9-5 job that I work, so missing 6 weeks of work is insane.

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Welcome to the Stage 32 family, Carolyn. I love what you do. Its simply artful. Hope to hear more from you in the lounges. Hey, I don't I ever seen a discussion about makeup in any lounge, so you should be the pioneer, Carolyn. Cheers from NYC.