When you compose, do you hear things before you sit down and write? Or do you find melodies with an instrument or DAW?
When you compose, do you hear things before you sit down and write? Or do you find melodies with an instrument or DAW?
Recently I was reseaching for my new up-coming emotional score, then I figured out that music has more ability to fill the space between the "Scene" and the "Character who is deaf & Dumb". Then I came up with title "The Unspoken Voice", by adding some finite detailing elements.
The Unspoken Voice: Ho Expand postRecently I was reseaching for my new up-coming emotional score, then I figured out that music has more ability to fill the space between the "Scene" and the "Character who is deaf & Dumb". Then I came up with title "The Unspoken Voice", by adding some finite detailing elements.
The Unspoken Voice: How Music Speaks When Words Fall SilentSome of the most powerful moments in cinema aren’t spoken—they are felt. Music has the unique ability to express what words cannot, filling the space between dialogue and silence.
Think about that one scene where the music alone made you cry, cheer, or hold your breath. Whether it’s the aching strings of heartbreak, the haunting hum of suspense, or the soaring crescendo of triumph, music becomes the unspoken voice of storytelling.
But how do we, as filmmakers, screenwriters, composers, and editors, decide what the music should say?
1. Filmmakers & Writers: Have you ever envisioned a scene where music replaced dialogue?
2. Composers & Sound Designers: How do you craft melodies that bring out hidden emotions?
3. Editors & Directors: How do you decide when a scene needs silence, subtlety, or a powerful score?
Let’s talk about those moments in film where music spoke louder than words. Drop your thoughts below!
Sometimes I like silence, though let the instruments ring out a few seconds - connecting the two scenes.
Kind of like the below example- at :50 - 1:00
I tried to have a short silence so the guys voice...
Expand commentSometimes I like silence, though let the instruments ring out a few seconds - connecting the two scenes.
Kind of like the below example- at :50 - 1:00
I tried to have a short silence so the guys voice would share the emotion, and even had a local film
Producer watch what I had done, more music in between, … it turned out well for my writing, but think (feel) the judge wanted more emotion brought out by the music.
The Spitfire sounds rang out a lot, hence what I was talking about above … there’s not too many seconds in this part of the scene. I did best using a plugin to stop some of the long ringing the instruments have.
I live the 3/4 change into the next scene as they “ attempt to dance”, which is why I wrote it in 3/4 to interact with the scene.
Ashley Renee Smith Exactly Ashley!! A Quite Place is an epic example of creation and blending both "the dialogues and music". Both of them played a major role in the movie by creating a silence intens...
Expand commentAshley Renee Smith Exactly Ashley!! A Quite Place is an epic example of creation and blending both "the dialogues and music". Both of them played a major role in the movie by creating a silence intense and horrific scene into a Epic one.
And Of course, I again agree with you about the interstellar score, from a Organ creation to the final complete movie.
Both the scores deserves a hats off.
Kerry Kennard First of all, the composition is very nice, but you need to add more backend elements. Try to focus creating backend with Low and Mid-Low octaves, so that it gives a huge strength to mai...
Expand commentKerry Kennard First of all, the composition is very nice, but you need to add more backend elements. Try to focus creating backend with Low and Mid-Low octaves, so that it gives a huge strength to main Melody and Counter Melody.
This score could've also worked with 5/8 and 6/8. The 3/4 you had taken is a good thinking, it works in all of them.
Also when it comes to compositions, try to create the more textural elements, first, and then move on with your Melodies, Ostinatos, Runs, Harmonies, Backends & Rhythms.
Rest everything is good, you have done great job!!
I'd love to start understanding the world of composing and music for movies and films. Could you suggest some resources? And I’d love to hear from any composers here—what’s a common mistake new filmmakers make when working with a composer?
Thank you so much Kerry Kennard Kat Spencer Henry Mashtots for sharing. I will check out the On the Track book as I improve my understanding of your world, and how you elevate the experience to a leve...
Expand commentThank you so much Kerry Kennard Kat Spencer Henry Mashtots for sharing. I will check out the On the Track book as I improve my understanding of your world, and how you elevate the experience to a level that I don't have a vocabulary for.
You’re welcome, Kat Spencer !
There’s a few other books - the
Berklee Film music boon is good and has nice stories from composers as well as good primer on this field.
Remember Yoda’s famous words - wh...
Expand commentYou’re welcome, Kat Spencer !
There’s a few other books - the
Berklee Film music boon is good and has nice stories from composers as well as good primer on this field.
Remember Yoda’s famous words - which I need to heed at Times -
No try, only do - hmm ;-)
KK
Kerry Kennard Those are the words I live by! And my go-to for anyone who says the word. :)
Hi everyone! I'd love to hear what everyone is working on (or recently finished.)
I'm in the beginning stages of working on my first short film. I'm nervous, but excited :)
I'm releasing my first english lyrics vocal composition
Hi all, I released a track recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXA4USbKzk4 It is intended to be the backing track of a bullet fight!
Know this is the composing lounge,
… is it wise for composers to have a
Top video program to use at times in the composing process? Know Dorico and
Logic Pro import video, though to help put it together and possibly … work doing
Video editing- wouldn’t this be worth a mid-price point having this softw...
Expand postKnow this is the composing lounge,
… is it wise for composers to have a
Top video program to use at times in the composing process? Know Dorico and
Logic Pro import video, though to help put it together and possibly … work doing
Video editing- wouldn’t this be worth a mid-price point having this software?
I have iMovie, though the next one up might be better for more complex editing (?!)
Does anyone here have a good stand alone video program ?
Yes, Kerry. With fewer functions than the paid one, but it's a fully functional version. You can check it out here:
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/es/products/davinciresolve...
Expand commentYes, Kerry. With fewer functions than the paid one, but it's a fully functional version. You can check it out here:
Kerry Kennard I also recommend Adobe Premiere. My son also likes Filmora and finds it a little easier to learn/use than Premier.
Thanks Kat Spencer !
I had a little experience at EKU during this Masters degree with Premier- nice integration.
(Where I made my first 4 ‘reels’)
You have a link to Filmora ?
Thanks Kat !
Appreciate...
Expand commentThanks Kat Spencer !
I had a little experience at EKU during this Masters degree with Premier- nice integration.
(Where I made my first 4 ‘reels’)
You have a link to Filmora ?
Thanks Kat !
Appreciate your input ?
KK
The fusion of virtual production techniques with AI-driven technology is rapidly transforming the post-production landscape. With real-time visualization, seamless VFX integration, and advanced AI-assisted workflows, filmmakers are achieving more immersive and efficient storytelling than ever before...
Expand postThe fusion of virtual production techniques with AI-driven technology is rapidly transforming the post-production landscape. With real-time visualization, seamless VFX integration, and advanced AI-assisted workflows, filmmakers are achieving more immersive and efficient storytelling than ever before. From LED walls and real-time rendering to AI-powered enhancements that refine visual effects on the fly, virtual production is bridging the gap between pre-production, shooting, and post. This technology allows filmmakers to visualize, adjust, and enhance their scenes in ways that weren’t possible just a few years ago.
Read more about this trend here: https://www.cgw.com/Press-Center/Web-Exclusives/2025/Virtual-production-...
Are you incorporating virtual production or AI tools into your post-production workflow? What challenges or advantages do you see in this shift?
Absolutely, Paul Rivers! The ability to pre-visualize environments and shots in real-time before stepping on set is a game-changer for directors, cinematographers, and production designers. And during...
Expand commentAbsolutely, Paul Rivers! The ability to pre-visualize environments and shots in real-time before stepping on set is a game-changer for directors, cinematographers, and production designers. And during production, the ability to make adjustments on the fly with LED walls and real-time rendering can save both time and budget which is huge, especially for independent filmmakers.
I have a project I'm working on. A sci-fi short film with feature film series posibilities. I am working post on the short film right now and have embarked on the AI filmmakers journey since last year...
Expand commentI have a project I'm working on. A sci-fi short film with feature film series posibilities. I am working post on the short film right now and have embarked on the AI filmmakers journey since last year. I am now versed in ComfyUI and all AI film, graphics, platforms, currently taking an advanced AI film course that will help me complete my film with AI VFX, and put me in line to further produce my story. I am planning to gain a foothold in the future that is going to be this AI. I'm looking to see if I can land a feature with this production plan and my AI workflows.
Hi Parker,
Sounds like you’re wearing many hats to make it happen. If you need music for certain scenes, I would be interested; there’s two short
Sci-Fi pieces in my SoundCloud profile.
Hope all goes smoothly in your project.
K. Kennard
Had this random tune playing in the background while writing, and for some odd reason, it transported me—like I was a kid again, sitting at my little table eating oatmeal, watching Trading Moms. There’s this one garden scene in the movie with a specific sound that always made me feel warm inside. Fu...
Expand postHad this random tune playing in the background while writing, and for some odd reason, it transported me—like I was a kid again, sitting at my little table eating oatmeal, watching Trading Moms. There’s this one garden scene in the movie with a specific sound that always made me feel warm inside. Funny how certain sounds or music can tap into something deep like that.
Curious—do you guys write with music playing?
Kat Spencer no its not just you. lol
John Tinger That's a first! hahaha
Not for me - need the focus on chords, etc.
I might start trying doing the Reference type sounds and music and A / B the mix - mastering part.
Hi, My name is Kerry Kennard, and am a drummer / percussionist and now composer, combining my years of music study and performance and been reading a few books on the Film music world has helped some. One of the best resources is "On the Track" by Fred Karlin and Rayburn Wright. Maybe a little dated...
Expand postHi, My name is Kerry Kennard, and am a drummer / percussionist and now composer, combining my years of music study and performance and been reading a few books on the Film music world has helped some. One of the best resources is "On the Track" by Fred Karlin and Rayburn Wright. Maybe a little dated, though there's good info. how to write and the composer's examples are helpful how to work with other people in the Film Industry.
I've performed drums on the road (1 + years), musicals in TN and OH, and performed on Holland America Line ships for three years, seeing about 3-4 diff. continents, spec. US, S. America, and European contracts. It's great experience playing diff. styles of music, as well as those Production shows listening to a click / sound tracks we performed with. Met many different musicians, due to when people come into the contract with the diff. ships. HAL was a great experience, learning the music, as well as meeting some of the guests. Hearing what the producers created I think helps with the composing work.
I've been learning Sync from many people last five - 7 years. I think writing to film is better, though know the Sync world is a stepping stone ... I think. :~)
I have a few irons in the fire this year with writing a few short films !
Main goal is to finish a Jazz project started a decade ago. There's one Blues tune instrumental on there. It's a Contemporary style as well, for myself. Plans are to finish by 4th Qtr this year, as time and funds allow.
The educational journey can be found on LinkedIn or this St. 32 profile.
I teach drums Part time, helping JH/HS through adult age.
Thank Ashley for the Mod. request last year. Hoping to learn from all of you as well. The Music creating / Music Tech / and performing part make up a lot of who we all are.
Have a great week everyone !
Kerry Kennard
Hey Kerry Kennard - I’m more into piano now. I’m not at a point where I can perform yet but I do practice. Hope you have an awesome week as well my friend.
Hey Kerry Kennard thanks for the book recommendation. As a composer I always viewed sync as a kind of retirement plan, build up my library and over time there's a nice passive income for later years....
Expand commentHey Kerry Kennard thanks for the book recommendation. As a composer I always viewed sync as a kind of retirement plan, build up my library and over time there's a nice passive income for later years. I'm a bit concerned that AI may put a stop to that, but I still like creating some library music once a month as a little project. Lovely to meet you and welcome!
Thanks Hannah Woolmer - !
My name is Ashley Smith, and I’m the Head of Community here at Stage 32!
Before joining this incredible team, I spent nearly seven years in development and talent management, working across film, TV, and streaming projects for companies like Amazon, Sony TV, FX, Universal TV, Paramount TV, and more....
Expand postMy name is Ashley Smith, and I’m the Head of Community here at Stage 32!
Before joining this incredible team, I spent nearly seven years in development and talent management, working across film, TV, and streaming projects for companies like Amazon, Sony TV, FX, Universal TV, Paramount TV, and more. Now, I have the absolute privilege of overseeing this amazing Stage 32 Community, the daily Blog, weekly AMAs, monthly in-person Meetups, and numerous initiatives to help you connect, learn, and grow in the entertainment industry.
I love seeing our members engage, collaborate, and support one another every day, and I’m always working on ways to bring you even more opportunities, insights, and resources. If there’s anything you’d love to see more of in the lounges, AMAs, blogs, or meetups, let me know. I want to make Stage 32 as helpful as possible for you!
Since it’s February, let’s have a little fun- what’s your favorite romance or rom-com film of all time? Or, in honor of Black History Month, what’s a film or TV series by a Black filmmaker or creator that you think everyone should see? Let’s get the conversation going!
Looking forward to meeting new members and reconnecting with familiar faces. Drop a comment and say hello!
I've always loved Moonstruck and While You Were Sleeping.
Wow, seven years in many amazing companies ! Learned something new, Ashley. Universal or Paramount would be good stepping stones for work in Film / TV. I've looked there before - nothing yet.
Romance...
Expand commentWow, seven years in many amazing companies ! Learned something new, Ashley. Universal or Paramount would be good stepping stones for work in Film / TV. I've looked there before - nothing yet.
Romance ?? I see the Hollywood Kiss on TV so much anymore, lol. :~).
I'm more of an Action and Sci-Fi guy.
K. Kennard
I'm also a big Sci-fi fan, Kerry Kennard! But I like to think that I'm mostly genre-agnostic and can enjoy good storytelling regardless of genre.
Hello, colleagues, I’d like to share my updated music portfolio with you. I hope I’ve chosen the right place to post it. Thank you. Wishing everyone a great day and weekend. p.s. And yes, I would be happy to hear your honest feedback. I really appreciate when people speak the truth, as it helps us grow.
I don't see Sergei's link in the phone app, but I can see it in my comment in the app, Kerry Kennard.
How do you acquire the film clips with dialog without the original score for the purpose of re-scoring?
Shawn Donahoo, Hello, there are videos like that on YouTube. I also open movies in a video editor that have separate tracks for Blu-ray, AC-3, and you can try to extract the required tracks from there...
Expand commentShawn Donahoo, Hello, there are videos like that on YouTube. I also open movies in a video editor that have separate tracks for Blu-ray, AC-3, and you can try to extract the required tracks from there, but it's not always possible. That's why I often have to re-record the audio myself. Typically, the music track is present in all channels, so I have to manually separate it. There might be other solutions, but this is the way I do it.
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Both for me, it just depends. Sometimes I wake up I the middle of the night hearing something that I need to get written and I grab my phone and start humming in to a voice memo. This happened when I...
Expand commentBoth for me, it just depends. Sometimes I wake up I the middle of the night hearing something that I need to get written and I grab my phone and start humming in to a voice memo. This happened when I needed to create the main tune for the Vesper clip, basically the last half of the clip. Then other times it's not so natural and coming to me so easily so it's helpful to set at the keyboard with a piano patch or something and find something that way.
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Depends on the film or project I’m writing for.
Sometimes I start with chords then melodies.
When I did the EP - Collaboratio - I had Ed’s piano part to write from. Then I used different instruments t...
Expand commentDepends on the film or project I’m writing for.
Sometimes I start with chords then melodies.
When I did the EP - Collaboratio - I had Ed’s piano part to write from. Then I used different instruments to add melodies and other lines within the song structure.
It’s called Rhythm n Keys on YouTube and all DSPs.