I'm a film student and unfortunately the producing business is a field that isn't covered very much in any of my classes. How hard is it to break into this profession? Where do most aspiring producers start?
I'm a film student and unfortunately the producing business is a field that isn't covered very much in any of my classes. How hard is it to break into this profession? Where do most aspiring producers start?
As a film student, I've had the opportunity to play both roles as Director and DP on most of my projects... I'm looking to get a masters in directing or just head straight into freelance DP work.. I have a love for images and story, but I'm having trouble deciding which field to pursue because both...
Expand postAs a film student, I've had the opportunity to play both roles as Director and DP on most of my projects... I'm looking to get a masters in directing or just head straight into freelance DP work.. I have a love for images and story, but I'm having trouble deciding which field to pursue because both professions seem to center around the two. How do you know you were "meant" to be a DP opposed to being a Director? Is it better to pursue both?
Do a bit of both like Peter Jackson in his early career he directed, DPed at least a few shots, produced, and acted in all his early films and for most of his mega budget stuff too
as for me I write, produce, dp a few shots direct and edit cause I have a budget of less then 20 euro to work with most of the time
A DP can make a living much easier* than a Director- but if you advertise yourself as both, you will get far fewer calls as DP because directors do not want another director on their set. (*easier is...
Expand commentA DP can make a living much easier* than a Director- but if you advertise yourself as both, you will get far fewer calls as DP because directors do not want another director on their set. (*easier is relative- it has never been harder for a DP to make a lving, particularly starting out. Most working DP's are older and did not start as DPs, but as assistants, lighting crew, etc...)
i know DP Directors... they do get work, but I would recommend marketing yourself as a DP... most DP's direct, that is part of being a DP... look up Shane Hulbert... a DP who has directed some cool films as well... he is famous for the blow up Christian Bale on the Terminator Salvation movie
I'm a filmmaker, I do everything!
It was a simple handheld steadicam without an arm/suit. Steadicam 5000 pro I think it's called.
Great poem and poetic approach to the visuals! The camerawork reminds me of the active role the camera plays in Terrence Malick's films. You definitely made the most out of your steadicam. Is this the style you usually go for or one of many?
Thank you and yeah! I'm always greatly inspired by the images Emmanuel Lubezki (Terrence Malick's cinematographer) and Terrence Malick create together. "The Tree of Life" and his most recent film "To...
Expand commentThank you and yeah! I'm always greatly inspired by the images Emmanuel Lubezki (Terrence Malick's cinematographer) and Terrence Malick create together. "The Tree of Life" and his most recent film "To The Wonder" actually inspired me to make this film. I wouldn't really call it my style or trademark, I just felt like the story needed that organic and spontaneous approach to camera movement and emphasis on different subjects entering/leaving the frame. I'm glad the decision worked for the project as a whole. I've always wanted to make a "poetic/Terrence Malick" type of film :)
This is great work, Nicolas...poetic and dreamy and meandering. I love how the camera 'swims' through space.
Lubezki is great! I'm a big fan of his and Malick's approach to shooting, often improvisational and using the natural resources around them. If you'd like to take a look, Nicolas, this may interest yo...
Expand commentLubezki is great! I'm a big fan of his and Malick's approach to shooting, often improvisational and using the natural resources around them. If you'd like to take a look, Nicolas, this may interest you. It's a short film I shot in Paris with that similar approach, minus the steadicam (though that would have been awesome!), and in a "poetic" manner: https://vimeo.com/50028182
Nice narrative!
Gorgeous work!
Nice reel Nicolas!
I'm slowly getting used to the fact that filmmaking is an organic process. Part of the director's job is to make all the ideas from the creative minds behind the camera correlate into one solid vision. Where is the line drawn between the directors vision and the cinematographers vision? How much adv...
Expand postI'm slowly getting used to the fact that filmmaking is an organic process. Part of the director's job is to make all the ideas from the creative minds behind the camera correlate into one solid vision. Where is the line drawn between the directors vision and the cinematographers vision? How much advice should you take from your DP, and the others working around you, without getting carried away from your original concept?
The relationship is a collaboration between two professionals. A director should take as much advice from the DP as is given. There should be no line drawn. If the two do not share the same vision the...
Expand commentThe relationship is a collaboration between two professionals. A director should take as much advice from the DP as is given. There should be no line drawn. If the two do not share the same vision they should not work together. A good director will choose the right DP. Not one who will roll over but one who will challenge and inspire.
The Director is the creative lead. If there is a disagreement about a creative choice between the DP and Director, the Director wins. However being a collaborative sport, every good Director chooses a...
Expand commentThe Director is the creative lead. If there is a disagreement about a creative choice between the DP and Director, the Director wins. However being a collaborative sport, every good Director chooses a good DP who can bring his creative and technical expertise to make strong recommendations. It would be foolish for a Director to override his DP without a very good reason, but he must have that flexibility. The only one who could trump the director is the producer; being the business lead. Then again, it would be foolish for a producer to second guess the director he hired to make a change without a very good reason. In some movies, the producer trumping the director has been a good decision, such as any movie where they were fired (The Wizard of Oz) or a film where the producers had it recut after the director was done (none off the top of my head). And there have been cases where producers second guessing their directors was a poor choice (Blade Runner).
I'm slowly getting used to the fact that filmmaking is an organic process. Part of the director's job is to make all the ideas from the creative minds behind the camera correlate into one solid vision. Where is the line drawn between the directors vision and the cinematographers vision? How much adv...
Expand postI'm slowly getting used to the fact that filmmaking is an organic process. Part of the director's job is to make all the ideas from the creative minds behind the camera correlate into one solid vision. Where is the line drawn between the directors vision and the cinematographers vision? How much advice should you take from your DP, and the others working around you, without getting carried away from your original concept?
Ever since I was a little kid, I've always loved to create things. It started with legos and it wasn't until I was introduced to art (concept art), that I took on drawing. When I was in 6th grade, my parents got me this book on how to draw fantasy landscapes and I was obsessed with it. Traveling int...
Expand postEver since I was a little kid, I've always loved to create things. It started with legos and it wasn't until I was introduced to art (concept art), that I took on drawing. When I was in 6th grade, my parents got me this book on how to draw fantasy landscapes and I was obsessed with it. Traveling into the depths of this unkown threshold with just my pen and paper; I loved it. Growing up with Harry Potter and the prequels to Stars Wars, film was always apart of my life and played a huge role in my creative pursuits. I remember "fighting" Darth Maul off with a wooden stick in my backyard and running around the house on my "nimbus 2000". I was first introduced to filmmaking when I entered my 8th grade year and took my first "movie making" class. It wasn't as clear as day, but I had a feeling that film might be in my future. It wasn't until the end of my freshman year that I knew for sure. Ever since then, I have challenged myself each year, trying to create intriguing films with an original story. After almost 5 years of film classes under my belt, I'm starting to see film as not only entertainment but a visual piece of literature and art. I'm greatly inspired by the works of Darren Aronofsky, Terrence Malick, Wes Anderson, Michel Gondry, and David Fincher and it can be seen clearly throughout all of my work. I'm thrilled that a website like Stage 32 exists and look forward to networking with professionals and film enthusiasts. I have to admit, as a filmmaker trying to get his name out there, getting the points up on that thing that measures your "karma" is pretty addicting. I look forward to whatever this website might have in store for me.
When it comes to screenwriting I always find myself next to a pile of crumpled up pieces of paper covered with ideas that have already been done. Some people say that we're in post-modern society where "original" ideas are just remixes of old original works. (Everything coming out of Hollywood nowad...
Expand postWhen it comes to screenwriting I always find myself next to a pile of crumpled up pieces of paper covered with ideas that have already been done. Some people say that we're in post-modern society where "original" ideas are just remixes of old original works. (Everything coming out of Hollywood nowadays is a perfect example) Can this copy-cat technique be avoided or is it inevitable?
Using one of the seven story arcs? Inevitable. Not re writing 'The Godfather'? Completely possible.
you can't avoid it completely. A completely original work will actually have been constructed in segments from other works in the artist's brain. What's original is the collection of elements, and how...
Expand commentyou can't avoid it completely. A completely original work will actually have been constructed in segments from other works in the artist's brain. What's original is the collection of elements, and how they're put together. You can avoid technical plagiarism easily by not looking at other work beforehand. As the others have said, there are common techniques, layouts and formulas, but it's all about how you use them, how your ideas interact with them.
I'm learning a lot from all this feedback. Thank you all for commenting.
Create a story u want to produce. Then try to purchase all the equipment u need or at least rent it! So now u have the equipment or are renting it. Start looking for those interested in your project....
Expand commentCreate a story u want to produce. Then try to purchase all the equipment u need or at least rent it! So now u have the equipment or are renting it. Start looking for those interested in your project. You are in school perfect place to find all the players. Do not be nervous in asking your professors to come on board. They should have contacts. Being a producer just means you are able to pull the team together! My mantra in life don't be afraid to ask, the only thing that can happen is they say no! Great place to get equipment is B &H in NYC. Voila! Your a producer!
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... and the more you learn (the less you'll seem to know), the more you must become to passing that knowledge on.
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Nicholas - Out of curiosity, where are you going to school?
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Breaking into production requires a multitude of talents, several of which I struggle to achieve. I've bitten the bullet and broken a few teeth on it. The hardest for me is Management (I can only just...
Expand commentBreaking into production requires a multitude of talents, several of which I struggle to achieve. I've bitten the bullet and broken a few teeth on it. The hardest for me is Management (I can only just manage myself). I would suggest that you assume you have the creative clout to recognise a script worthy of several years of your life. Without that script you can call yourself what you like but it'll just be a name. If you've been successful in any other business, ask yourself what qualities you brought to it and be honest about what you lack. Study business but especially the art of selling because that's the bottom line to what a producer does. If you're not a salesman even the best script in the world won't get funded (there's just too much competition). But also bear in mind that many bad films get made. They were made because someone believed that they were better than they were (or convinced others to believe it). Go to lots of movies and analyse them for yourself, not what others say about them but what you see in them. Much of the rest you'll be making up as you go along; you'll need to be very good at bluff and have far more than your natural dose of good luck. Oh! And thanks for the question. Its always worth peering into your own mind to find out why we do what we do.
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Best place is on the job. Work on as many film shoots as possible, as a producer you need to really know everyone's job well to be able to produce on a tight budget, which is always.