Ruud Hermans's Lounge Discussions

... Ik ben nu op 4:34. Voor mij voelt het dat de docu over de vraag gaat" waar ligt de gr er ns van de ethiek; in het geval van Han -- waar probeer je God te gaan spelen. Een Nederlander zou zeggen "you can't have your cake and eat it" Een Amerikaan zou geen enkel probleem hebben met roem in de overtreffende trap.

Schrijnend. Ik weet niet op welke momenten je doelt, het feit dat Jan zich als drummer deel van de band voelt, voelt voor mij onwerkelijk aan. Wellicht heeft hij zich bij al zijn zaken nooit deel letterlijk gevoelt van zijn eigen succes

ja zeker ook. maar ook de triestheid van het moment dat 1 van de bandleden dan toch weer aan de drugs zit. En dan het Nina hagen verhaal. Echt het houdt niet op. Dat zit verderop in de docu.

Ja, Nina en haar manager. Het zou allemaal bijna een film kunnen zijn. Ok weet dat dit gek klinkt maar het laat me allemaal denken aan het Frank Babian Bobby Farrell verhaal. De teloorgang van Boney M

Ha ja dat was ook zoiets idd al hebben we hier wel te maken met echte muzikanten. Lademacher is een geweldige gitarist.

Hi Ruud Hermans I'm from Trinidad and Tobago. I recently had a film that I composed for screened at the Trinidad and Tobago Film Festival a couple of weeks ago and will be screened internationally very soon . The Director and some of the co-Producers live in England where the film was written, shot and edited. It was a good experience and I had gotten the script beforehand (after signing the NDA of course). We communicated on Skype but most of the communication was via Whatsapp. The time difference was not too bad (they were 5 hours away).

In terms of submitting the cues to the Director I use CudDb. He was new to using it but it was very easy to learn. From there he can look at the cues with the score and make suggestions. The end result was the cues were approved and the film was completed.

Nice to hear that you are working with directors abroud too! Thanks for sharing.

Usually the composer is present during the sound mix to discuss any issues where the SXF and score are competing ... but they hardly ever collaborate beforehand.

I know this is the Post-Production Lounge, but does the Sound Designer start working during Production?

Good question Karl! It depends a bit on what project it is. Sometimes if i am working on a short film I just do the music as a composer(or it could even be that i do both music as well as sound design if the sound design aspect is almost part of the music) I did a horror short last year and the jump scares etc were part of the music so i did a fair amount of the sound design too. They only hired a mixing engineer for the final mix. Every project has a different approach to that.

Karen, usually the sound designer comes in at post production but sometimes if the producer wants the sound designer on set or have him do the booming(I have seen that happen for small shortfilms sometimes). But it often happens that both composer and sound designer come in after production. I am in favour of being involved as earley as possible, that goes the same for sound design. Well that is only my view of course.

Hi Karl, I second what Ruud has said. In my experience (mostly sound design and mixing documentaries), the composer and sound designers have had very little interaction, but it really depends on the type of production, and style of music and sound elements, and the people involved. In a documentary, where the goal of the sound editor is often to fix and enhance the "realism" that is already contained in the shot, the sound effects are generally more utilitarian and less artistic. The opposite is often true with horror or sci-fi where the roles of sound effects and music can overlap quite a lot, and might require a more collaborative process.

Cheers Ruud Hermans! Nice meeting you here too.

Hi Roger! I'm a DP guy. :)

Linwood Bell ...Yay! I knew I wasn't alone! Pleasure!

I've been there since 2.7 I think. Too old to switch, but I did a couple mixes in Luna last week and I enjoyed mixing in it. I'd still do midi in DP though. The tape and Neve summing is pretty sweet in Luna.

A Logic X man here

Hey, Ruud Hermans! My name is Kay, I'm the Community Manager here at Stage 32. Nice to meet you! Wow, congrats on your successful career thus far, that's awesome! I'd love for you to start a post in the Composing Lounge - maybe you could invite a conversation based on your experience working with a director from another country that was challenging and rewarding? https://www.stage32.com/lounge/composing

There's also a conversation in the Post-Production Lounge about the relationship between the Composer and the Sound Designer that I would love your input on! https://www.stage32.com/lounge/post_production/Composer-relationship-wit...

Keep in mind that these lounges are like the VIP Filmmaker's Lounges at Film Festivals, so this is where you can meet the people doing the work, get advice on anything you're working on, and/or give back to those who may need advice. We're a very supportive and encouraging community! I think you'd also enjoy my intro blog post on how to engage with the Stage32 Community:

https://www.stage32.com/blog/Find-Your-Community-on-Stage-32

Enjoy exploring the lounges, and don't forget to comment and respond to others’ posts, too! It's the best way to really connect! And, of course, feel free to reach out at any time.