Animation

"Mars Express" looks exciting Terence Daniels! I like the animation style.

Unfortunately, we can't force a culture to like something. For instance, outside of Japan, Star Wars isn't that popular in Asia.

Well there will be sex and blasters so I'm in.

This looks cool! I hope people go and see it. It has a great look and a lot of Blade Runner vibes.

Pretty great imagery, Terence Daniels !

Bob, have you ever been involved in a project that was trying to qualify for Oscar? With shorts, I know there’s a list of Oscar qualifying film festivals to apply to. I’ve never been through that process, though.

Mike Boas I have participated in festivals, but not for the Oscar track. I know those who have, and it's only a process if you satisfy the requirements, which are to win one of the festivals on the list or to have your short play theatrically for a week in one of those qualifying markets (it can be in front of a feature)

I'd never considered the rules for qualifying for an Oscar, great share Bob Harper

Great share, thank you Bob Harper!

Thanks for the share, Bob Harper . This was an interesting read.

Ask fellow students to help out.

Bob Harper is right, the best suggestion would be to ask other students who are willing to assist you with this side project. It's a good way to network and meet people who have the talents your looking for that you didn't know. In time you may find yourself hiring or being hired through those relationships. Either way production is a team sport so I would say go out and politely ask. You'll find someone eventually.

Alexander Gurrieri, Stage 32 has a free job board. You can post that you're looking for unpaid animation help for a project. Here is a link that you can use to go to our job board directly: https://www.stage32.com/find-jobs

I agree with Bob Harper . Although, I would guess that other students are also busy and broke, so you do have a bit of a challenge. You might want to find some recent graduates who haven't found work yet and are looking for material to add to their reels and portfolios. In fact, when letting people know you can't pay them, emphasize that they can use whatever work they produce for their reels.

Bob Harper Yes dear Bob i started that back in 2020 , Wrote Max n Luke , got it vetted by MIKE DISA , he is a celebrity mentor here in Stage32 , sent that deck to lot of networks, during kid screens, Its really hard to raise money through investors , packaging itself is a big task , Then Created Gopalakidz youtube channel , hoping to raise some YT money , i ralised you have to burn money before you see your first dollar , almost burned 200k to push that channel, the channel is live with 50k subscribers and generates $30 per month, Then I thought to hire some on US who represent us and find good projects, SO i hired Zero gravity management, paid 10k upfront, all they did was put repping news on deadline, after that i never heard from them in three years, LOL to get them to face to face i have to spend another 10k to visit their office, So i guess this is the way, you keep trying keep trying . neva give up and your time will come. There are many like me who are looking producers who wants to produce in less , There are many producers who are looking for good teams, This is where this fits. Match maker match maker make me a match .!!! A community to keep you going. I strongly STAGE32 can do it , I mean they have done a lot already, we are talking to each other. this is magic. Now its time for a paradigm shift.

Kumar Sambhav Your journey in trying to do you own IP answers your question on why indie producers aren't jumping at the opportunity to enlist your services. They are going through the same hoops in trying to get a buyer or distributor, and they are learning, as many of us are, that the numbers don't add up, especially when they are padding the budget beyond studio services.

Family and kids' entertainment buying is halting unless you have a great IP and/or serious marketing money. Our rep talked to everyone at MIP and Kidscreen, and international buyers are more focused on their territories to gain the financial breaks they get to keep the production local.

Theatrical is pretty much dead for indies, and DVDs and BluRay, which were cash cows, are no longer a big revenue window, and streamers keep paying less and less.

The paradigm needs to shift from the old ways to new ways, such as focusing on smaller productions, niche audiences, creative financing, alternate platforms, and different types of content.

Bob Harper Great Insights Dear Bob , This is what is happening, and your Last two lines is exactly the solution i m pitching to communities like STAGE32 , With the advancement in technology smaller teams will produce great content, but they will still need money, not in millions but in thousands may be, and once the content is ready, its going to get sold , cuz lotsa ppl are buying completed shows in lesser price. This is it. win-win for every one . one who owns the IP takes the bigger bite.

Hey Kumar, it's nice to hear your enthusiasm, it is needed. I like that your efforts are focused more on the indie side but tell me what you forecast for the major studios right now trying to structure AI into their workflows?

I feel like there has been a great deal of creative gatekeeping going on which has caused us to come to this point as a culture not only in the states but globally. I was in LA(physically) almost 8 years ago pounding pavement and I'd have to say that it was more for sightseeing than opportunity.

Those companies restructuring means even less opportunity and more of those same IPs that are likely to draw less and less audiences. That is happening now in gaming to long standing pillars of the medium b/c investors use the past success of an IP as an excuse not to innovate. Like a slowly boiling cartoon frog...with superpowers!

Terence Daniels Thanks !! Long time ago when George Lucas introduced software-based editing, with the help of some Stanford grads , he hired back then , There was revolt , strike and what not , they thought editors will loose their jobs , after some unrest they adopted new ways and look where is editing now , AI is scary right now , we lost our big client citing AI , they have developed some language models, through which they will now do generative animation and upload in their youtube channels, they are like coco melon of Europe , They told us , it is going to save cost for them , After this major hit, we looked at AI with a positive approach, and adopted few tools, and we created a ANIME teaser in 3 days flat from scratch, which would have taken 4 -8 weeks traditionally after that I sent an email in my network, that 90 min 3D CGI is possiblei in $750k and less than 12 months. One of the major studios replied and had a call with 7 of their professionals in the call, how was this possible, I showed them the demo. They seemed very optimistic,

Major Studios have there challenges , but Industry as a whole is very generous, there is room for everyone, if there is an ecosystem where we can approach just by saying hello and we getting ample of business , we all make money , don't have to chase big giants, when your content is loved by the audience they will pick you, NIMONA , One punch man, stranger things , mighty bheem , These stories are proof that when story telling is incredible , it will go beyond, Recently in India interesting case study happened, There was this GUJRATI MOVIE called VASH , locally produced in local language it hardly earned money max $250k , but the story telling was great , One Bollywood producer acquired the rights for Remake , He spent around $5million , it grossed over $40mn world wide, The movies name is SHAITAAN.

We all have great stories to tell , but there so many moving parts required to make a movie, Hope someone will tie this together soon.

You're welcome, Bob Harper. And thanks. I'm gonna share Ramon's video on my social media.

As someone who’s on the spectrum and has a son on the spectrum, thank you for sharing this! I had no idea this existed! I can’t wait to share this with my family!

Brian Gunter I'm glad you found us. I also have a son on the spectrum. It's the main reason I am so passionate about this project.

Bob Harper I feel you. I watched the first episode and I think my kids will love it! Especially who it’s coming from. So good for you and please pass along another “great job” to the team. We’ll stay tuned here!

Brian Gunter Thanks, I will let our team know!

Thanks for posting. I love me some Anime fight scenes. Will check these all out later. Dying to do my own anime fight scene soon.

Fight scenes have their own style and flair, and it's always interesting to see how their going to turn out. Will have to check this out Terence Daniels

This loos pretty cool.

I hope you don't mind the mistakes and repeats in there. I was looking at a lot of footage but mostly the best from other bests. The terminology is one word meant to convey an overarching idea concerned with the ever-present, and I say, highly confusing fight scenes.

To have a frame of reference for where one type of activity begins or blends with the next is good for context if not experimentation. Again a lot of timing with these things is the same but as you said Daniel Husbands these things can take on a unique movement and/or graphical style.

Interesting

That is unreal. Wow. Thanks for sharing. Even the section where it edited the woman wearing a dress "wear a gold or purple gown" - that technical implication can also span to e-commerce retailers to use for their products. Crazy.

It is scary and amazing how fast AI is growing.

It may take some time before Youtube covers productions cost, but as has been previously mentioned it is a great way to see if what you've got can attract an audience. Sometimes a great idea is before it's time, or only a great idea to the creator. Getting out in front of people will help to determine if you have a project with legs or you need to move on to the next. I would give Youtube a run, but continue to pitch. As your audience grows you'll have better positioning should someone check you out.

Ok Kamar, I see what you mean. That sounds like advertising, not affecting number of times the algorithm promotes your video in searches. A slight distinction in my mind.

I’ll also say that putting animation on YouTube is not enough to build an audience. Grassroots community building would involve social media, email newsletters, patreon, discord, etc.

Mike Boas Yes Youtube is a good way to promote your content to get some early traction to show engagement with your content to your investors, the 2d Anime teaser i posted recently , that IP is on tiktok only , and they are killing it, they are producing a show cuz they are super hit on Tiktok.

Youtube is viable for getting your work out there, and if you can build an audience to attract sponsors, then you have a better shot of making money. Whether it is YouTube, Roku etc. the future of entertainment will be indies finding a way to get their work somewhere as the industry continues to implode. If you can afford to produce it and get it out there, that's better than pitching for years and having it sit still on your hard drive. But you have to promote it, advertise it, and just hope that it will get discovered if you want any chance of financial success.

Has anyone tried to, or successfully used Crunchyroll?

This looks fun, Mike Boas! "Really shows what you can do with imagination and not much money" I only work in the indie world right now, so I know exactly what you mean. I gotta check out "Hundreds of Beavers." Thanks for sharing.

It looks awesome, Mike Boas! I'm adding it to my watchlist ASAP!

Very imaginative, thanks for the share Mike Boas

Just watched it with my daughter. We couldn't stop chuckling all the way through it.

Thanks for sharing. The twelve principles are always desirable; however, when it comes to short deadlines and high quotas, the inside joke is that we can only afford three!

Fast, good, or cheap. Pick two!

Which principle can you get away with the most Bob Harper ?

Daniel Husbands It depends on the project, the deadline and the goal of the project, but usually the three we can use and get away with and still make a project watchable are easing, arcs and timing.

Many are just baked into the process. Pose-to-pose is HOW to animate. Staging is HOW to communicate clearly.

That said, I animated for years without eases. I was able to tell stories fine, but shots lacked a certain finesse.